map design question

[Duc Vautour 1]

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows how to make 'hades terrain'? Some people says that hades terrain is a lower level of beach terrain. But i tried a lot to accomplish that but the resusult always unsucsefull. Can anybody help me about this?

[Lord_Chris 251]

I have another thread that explains a lot, it may help you with your question: http://forums.stronghold-nation.com/topic/144-scripting-invasions/

[EaglePrince 230]

That is an interesting document indeed - I downloaded it with pleasure. :) Thanks for that, Chris!

[Lord Vetka 63]

Yes it is a good article, it helped me to get the invasions to work and siege equipment to attack like they should, lots of people could not get the siege towers to work, this tells you how to get them to work and more!

 

"Adnan" is a good example of the siege towers working, they come to the walls and the enemy troops climb onto your walls and you are in for a fight!

 

"Adnan" is posted in the war scenario section of Stronghold Heaven.

[EaglePrince 230]

Hmm, that sounds interesting! Fighting against AI opponent using siege towers. I hope I will play that scenario some time soon. :)

[Duc Vautour 1]

Wow, thanks a lot lord chris :)

 

EDIT: anyway Lord Chris, i can't managed to find an answer on your thread :(

Edited November 16, 2014 by Lord_Chris
Please avoid double posting for short intervals

[EaglePrince 230]

I did assume that, but I wasn't quite sure what you were thinking under "Hades terrain", but than I got it.

 

You can make it by placing ocean, and than over that ocean you need to put grass. Also, I believe that Hades terrain and beach are same level in fact - at least it has always seemed to me like that.

 

Also, I should tell that I found what Hades terrain is by looking at War of the deserts map. Surajsubba also

gave there his answer of how to create the terrain.

  surajsubba said:

The Hades terrain is a feature, map-designing technique sorta where u can place farms on what it appears to be dry & barren land.

 

Here's how u do it:

1) Place a small/large patch of ocean

2) then place thick scrub or oasis grass over it.

 

Try it out, farms can be placed over it. On the minimap, it'll appear to as spots.

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[Lord_Chris 251]

Sorry to hear you didn't get an answer from that, I was unsure how much it would help - but it looks like @EaglePrince managed to get something :)

[EaglePrince 230]

Don't feel sorry, you gave us a great document. :)

[Duc Vautour 1]

You don't have to feel sorry Lord Chris. Although i did'nt find what i was looking for on that document, i learn a lot of interesting things :)

 

Well EaglePrince, actually i alread tried that. But i don't know if i do it wrong but i can't managed to do that. I believe i already tried just like the instruction said :(

[Lord_Chris 251]

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But i don't know if i do it wrong but i can't managed to do that. I believe i already tried just like the instruction said

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I'm sure if you attach your file to the thread someone would take a look for you, we could see if we can see anything blatantly incorrect with it - two pairs of eyes are better than one, after all :)

[EaglePrince 230]

I agree with Chris, feel free to attack the file here, so we could see it by ourselves. :)

[Duc Vautour 1]

Should i attach an example of a map using a 'hades terrain' map or just simply the picture?

[EaglePrince 230]

You can do both, although the map provides more information to us. :)

[Duc Vautour 1]

Well, since somehow i can't take an ingame screenshot, i will just provide you the minimap and its links

 

A lot of people says there are a lot of map that uses a hades level terrain. But these two are the one that i think best

 

The first one is "Lasting Impression" by Yasko. It looks like a barren land but actually you can build a farm on the footprint. The footprint is the one that uses haddes level terrain.

 

Here is the minimap

 

 

And the link to the filehttp://stronghold.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=3360&ci=0041e57c92a2a2e2cf9a432b77d8727bYToxOntpOjA7YToyOntpOjA7czoxNDoiU2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHMiO2k6MTtzOjQ4OiJsaXN0ZXIucGhwP3N0YXJ0PTAmYW1wO3NlYXJjaD1sYXN0aW5nIGltcHJlc3Npb24iO319

 

The seccond one is "War of the desert" by XFlameX. It looks like it is a barren land from minimap. But, you can actually build a farm on the edge of the map. The Oasis on the edge of the map were camouflaged using hades level terrain

 

Here is the minimap

 

And link to download http://stronghold.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=3695&ci=5eccaf2b1c87f2caf1223088a441cb5cYToyOntpOjA7YToyOntpOjA7czozMToiU3Ryb25naG9sZCBDcnVzYWRlcjogU2tpcm1pc2hlcyI7aToxO3M6NDg6Imxpc3Rlci5waHA/Y2F0ZWdvcnk9c2hjX3NraXJtaXNoJmFtcDtzPWQmYW1wO289ZCI7fWk6MTthOjI6e2k6MDtzOjQ3OiJTdHJvbmdob2xkIENydXNhZGVyOiBTa2lybWlzaGVzOiBTZWFyY2ggUmVzdWx0cyI7aToxO3M6ODg6Imxpc3Rlci5waHA/c3RhcnQ9MCZhbXA7dGl0bGU9d2FyIG9mIHRoZSBkZXNlcnQmYW1wO2NhdGVnb3J5PXNoY19za2lybWlzaCZhbXA7cz1kJmFtcDtvPWQiO319

[EaglePrince 230]

You can make the in-game screenshot by pressing PRINT SCREEN (while in the game), and than you minimize the game and open Paint, and press CTRL+P to paste the image. Then you save the image. Those who have Steam version could press F12 to make a screenshot.

 

Nevertheless, we do know what Hades terrain, but we wanted to see your map, so we could see something about your problem.

  Duc Vautour said:

Well EaglePrince, actually i alread tried that. But i don't know if i do it wrong but i can't managed to do that. I believe i already tried just like the instruction said sad

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[Duc Vautour 1]

Oh sorry, how about i'm going to send you the map. How about that?

[EaglePrince 230]

Sure, you can send it to me on my email.